Welcome to Money for Change, a brand-new podcast from Triodos Bank! In this weekly podcast, the Impact & Economics team will share insights and challenges related to our core question: how can we transition to a more balanced and just world?

Each episode, we’ll be joined by Hans Stegeman, Triodos Bank’s Chief Economist. Together, we’ll dive into various topics and current affairs related to this overarching question, exploring ways in which these necessary changes might be realized.

In this episode, we will discuss COP16 – the 16th Conference on the Convention on Biological Diversity, which was held in Colombia. We will address whether COP16 can actually safeguard biodiversity or if more is needed. Furthermore in today’s episode; why is biodiversity so important in the first place? And is there a possibility for a more integrated policy towards ecological depletion?

To top it off, Hans Stegeman brings us some hopeful news.

Host: Emma de Leeuw

Fixed guest: Hans Stegeman

Guest: Pjotr Tjallema

Website forthcoming