In this episode, I sat down with Natália Leal, PhD, coach at Natália Leal | Coach & Trainer | Professional Speaker | Thriving Abroad, leadership advisor, former CEO of the World Fair Trade Organization and someone who discovered that achievement and agency are not the same thing.
What struck me most is that this conversation was never really about leadership or careers. It was about what happens when we stop living on autopilot and finally ask ourselves a question many of us avoid for years:
⇾ 𝗪𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗱𝗼 𝗜 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 𝘄𝗮𝗻𝘁?
Natalia's journey took her from academia to policy, executive leadership and international organizations, yet she realized that for much of her life she accepted opportunities without consciously choosing them.
Deep dive talking points:
👉🏾 Growing up with a natural desire to serve and represent others, long before leadership became a profession;
👉🏾 A successful international career built through opportunities rather than intentional choices;
👉🏾 The body sounding the alarm through chronic tension and pain after years of always being "on";
👉🏾 Learning the difference between judgment and discernment, and why wisdom asks for both compassion and perspective;
👉🏾 Moving from performance and obligation toward responsibility, choice and personal agency!
Empowering nuggets:
🙌🏾 Wisdom is not knowing more. It is knowing what is needed in this moment, without judging;
🙌🏾 Sometimes our body speaks long before our mind is willing to listen;
🙌🏾 Responsibility and power belong together. When we take ownership of our choices, we also reclaim our agency;
Listening to Natalia reminded me how easy it is to confuse being capable with being conscious. We can spend years doing meaningful work, collecting experiences and fulfilling expectations, yet never pause long enough to ask whether we are actively choosing our path.
Perhaps empowerment begins with a simpler question than we imagine.
⇾ 𝗪𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗱𝗼 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 𝘄𝗮𝗻𝘁?
Connect with Natália:
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalialealcoach/
Website: https://www.natalia-leal.com
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