In this episode we hear the story of Rozette, the woman who sat in the front row together with Jules Schelvis during the trial against John Demjanjuk, the camp guard of death camp Sobibór on the day the train arrived with Ilse. You may have thought he was a very sick man that had to lie down during the court sessions – until you hear this episode…

We also talk to Helen, 81 years old and a living relative of Ilse! We found her! Does she have pictures of the war? And what can she tell us about the war stories her father must have had?

And we hear what happened to Hamburg, just a month after Ilse was brought to Sobibór. Would the house of her birth have survived the war?

Oh, and… this is not the last episode of the story of Ilse! We went to San Francisco, to look at the family archive for traces of Ilse! We won’t give away any spoilers upfront, but be advised that this last episode is definitely not the one you would want to miss out on!

You can expect episode 9 from Wednesday, august 28 (2024).

The podcast 'Erased' is an Audiodroom Podcast Production, made in the Netherlands. Production: Richard Grootbod and Patty-Lou Middel-Leenheer. Advice and fact-check: Aline Pennewaard and Janny van der Molen. Music: Mark Lobenstein. Audio and studio support: Gijs Friesen and Marc Reitsma.

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