Foojay.io, the Friends Of OpenJDK! - S03 / E41

Web Development with Java (#41)

When starting to build a new website, you are facing a major challenge. Which framework should you use? Angular, React, Vue, Svelte? They are all based on JavaScript and can be the right choice depending on your needs. But do you really need one of these frameworks? Why would you not just stick to Java and use one of the many great libraries that are available for it?

Guests

Martijn Dashorst

Marcus Hellberg

    Podcast Host

    Host: Frank Delporte

    Links

    Wicket

    Vaadin

    Thymeleaf / htmx

    Content

    00:00 Introduction of the topic and guests
    01:37 About Apache Wicket
    03:26 About Vaadin
    06:37 How these frameworks exchange data between server and client
    09:38 Comparing to Thymeleaf
    11:16 About htmx
    https://foojay.io/today/book-review-modern-frontends-with-htmx/ 
    14:42 How the Apache Foundation works
    https://apache.org/  
    19:20 License model of Vaadin
    21:26 Wicket and Vaadin "in the wild"
    https://vaadin.com/blog/liukuri-uses-vaadin-flow-to-help-finnish-households-navigate-the-energy-crisis  
    https://liukuri.fi/  
    https://api.pi4j.com/ 
    https://4drums.media/  
    26:03 Java developers can build full web applications with only Java without being full-stack
    27:47 Could JavaFX become a web-development framework?
    29:35 About WebComponents
    32:14 How the company Vaadin is making money from opensource
    34:31 The future of Wicket, htmx, Vaadin,…
    39:55 Which kind of project to build with Wicket or Vaadin
    46:18 Links  
    48:54 Searching Vaadin docs with AI
    https://marcushellberg.dev/how-to-build-a-custom-chatgpt-assistant-for-your-documentation 
    51:21 Conclusions

    Music

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