In this episode we speak with Jonathan Lu and Shauheen Etminan, the co-founders of Vcenna, as they take us on a journey through the historical context and societal stigma surrounding religion. We discuss their personal experiments with psychoactive substances and the advantages they might offer, including heightened consciousness and even telepathic experiences. We also spotlight the practice of microdosing and its potential to amplify emotional awareness, all without the vivid hallucinations often associated with psychedelics.
The duo emphasizes the significance of intentionality in this pursuit. Furthermore, Jonathan and Shauheen generously share their personal revelations from the world of lucid dreaming and express their genuine excitement for the uncharted territories these compounds might unlock in the exploration of diverse states of consciousness.
ABOUT OUR GUESTS
Jonathan Lu and Shauheen Etminan are the co-founders of VCENNA, a drug discovery company that creates mental wellness solutions from psychoactive plants used ceremonially in Ancestral Eastern traditions. We will be speaking about their MAGI ANCESTRAL supplements, based on a legal ingredient called Syrian Rue. They developed different formulas: one is for microdosing, and others to enhance sleep, lucid dreaming, and meditation.
Jonathan is an engineer that has been studying 2000 year old Chinese texts in search of compounds, formulations, and rituals that have been lost to history. His team applies modern neurophysiological and computational tools to understand scientifically what our ancestors discovered millennia ago, and from which they developed the nootropic formulations for Magi Ancestral Supplements.
Shauheen Etminan is an intuitive activator, inventor, and passionate founder dedicated to creating impactful products and platforms embodying wellness, abundance, authenticity, and reciprocity. With a track record spanning multiple industries, his focus on psychedelics for mental health and cognitive growth aligns with his personal journey and mission as an autotelic entrepreneur.
IN THIS CONVERSATION:
💫 Jonathan explains what he does for work to a 9-year old
💫 Beta Carbolines and Syrian Rue
💫 What should every microdoser know about these compounds?
💫 Who is Avicenna?
💫 Making the vast amount of documented ancient wisdom accessible and applicable in modern life
💫 Haoma or Soma, what is it?
💫 The earliest account of psychoactives use in the Zoroastrian religion (the Book of Arda Viraf)
💫 How can we learn about and embrace ancestral practices?
💫 Jon and Shauheen share their personal experiences with microdosing, meditation and dream states
💫 The difference between dreaming, lucid dreaming and meditative dream states
💫 A call to all microdosers to document experiences and share them with the community
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OTHER RESOURCES
Jonathan's blog article on Microdosing and Meditation: https://microdosinginstitute.com/inner-work/microdosing-and-meditation/
Introduction to the ancient Iranian polymath Avicenna and his book ‘Canon of Medicine’: https://www.famousscientists.org/avicenna/
Wikipedia on the Ancient Iranian religion Zoroastrianism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoroastrianism
Their use of psychoactive substances as documented in the ‘Book of Viraf’: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Arda_Viraf
IranicaOnline on Haoma: https://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/haoma-ii
CONNECT WITH SHAUHEEN AND JONATHAN
Website: www.ancestralmagi.com
Instagram/TikTok/Youtube: @ancestralmagi
✨ ABOUT MICRODOSING INSTITUTE:
Microdosing Institute offers education on how to microdose with psychedelics safely, consciously and effectively. We create community and foster healthy conversations in the microdosing space so that we can continue to learn more and expand the body of knowledge on best practices and harm reduction. Additionally, we encourage and promote research by partnering with universities and other organizations across the globe so that the full potential of microdosing may be realized and made accessible to those who can benefit from the practice.
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